Forums - Joe Higashi vs Adon Show all 81 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Fighting Game Discussion (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=8) -- Joe Higashi vs Adon (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=17695) Posted by Cypher Wing on 05:10:2001 03:02 AM: Don't you think this would be a perfect fight? They both know Muay Thai, have similirar attitudes and look similiar...I hope they make Joe and Adon rivals in CvS2... Who do you think would win? Posted by Deathscythe on 05:10:2001 03:07 AM: adon will break him like a twig. joe higashi is a fake muay thai fighter. Posted by Cypher Wing on 05:10:2001 03:09 AM: If Joe were powered up of course. Since Adon beat Sagat who is extremely strong. Posted by Deathscythe on 05:10:2001 03:11 AM: adon is soo fast that joe wont even get the chance to power up. good bye joe! Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 04:36 AM: I think Joe would win. His weak and strong projectiles can seriously mess up ANY character's rush/jump in game if timed right and his moves have slightly more priority than they look like the would from their animations. Also I don't see how Joe could be considered a fake Muei Thai fighter, I mean in the game storylines he's been the undefeated champion in at least two different kickboxing circuits for over five consecutive years. *_* Posted by on 05:10:2001 04:46 AM: Joe ownz Adon. It's a well known fact Capcom had Joes Golden Tiger Heel in mind when they did the frames for Adon's Jaguar Kick. Adon is slow as hell....Joe throws punches with the speed of light pratically...and his fight with Hwa in FF: TMP proves his footwork is probably faster than Adon's, too. Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 04:51 AM: Plus, Joe says cool stuff like "I saw through you like, uh, something transparent!" and "How's that? I'm the Satan of martial arts!" Posted by MULDER on 05:10:2001 04:54 AM: adon wins ofcourse no hurricane bullshit Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 05:17 AM: Why? Posted by Akuma2002 on 05:10:2001 05:46 AM: im not a real big snk fan but i think adon was a ripoff of joe Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 05:52 AM: He was actually, even though Adon first appeared in the original Street Fighter he only had one technique that could be considered a special move (his forward flip kick), however when it came time for his Alpha makeover Capcom was strongly influenced by Joe Higashi. Posted by JL tha Infamos on 05:10:2001 05:55 AM: I thik Adon would win but it would be close. Also Adon was not a joe ripoff because Adon was in the very first Street Fighter... or Fighting Street! Posted by on 05:10:2001 06:06 AM: Adon is a damn Joe ripoff NOW...not BACK THEN. Get it right. Also...there's something WRONG with hurricanes? I'd like to see Adon pull out a Jaguar Assualt or Super Jaguar Kick while Joe does the Screw Uppercut. The look on his face would be priceless......indeed. Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 06:15 AM: GeoG2: Don't you mean the look on his face would be priceless...DEAD. JL tha Infamos: Did you ignore what I posted? By your logic Ken and Ryu are shameless rip offs of White and Red from Karate Champ, Honda is a pitiful imitation of Ford because they both make cars, etc. Posted by Bezerka on 05:10:2001 12:11 PM: I don't know jack about Joe but Adon sux so i say Joe wins. Posted by el_diablo on 05:10:2001 12:18 PM: first of all.... if you put RBFFS Joe vs ANY SFZ Adon, joe would whoop his ass so hard.....and joe is one thousand times more stylished than Adon!!!! AND HE IS THE SATAN OF MARTIAL ARTS!!!!!!!!!!! can you ask for more??? NO!!! Joe is too strong for Adon.... Posted by Mech Zangief Master on 05:10:2001 01:37 PM: Joe Vs Adon would be a great match CvsS would be better if it where Tag or just 1 on 1 instead of how it is! it'd b cool if they put Adon in CvsS My money 4 the Adon Joe match would be on... i dunno probley Joe cause he seems more cocky! But Adon did defeat Sagat hmmmm good match Posted by Psycho Soldier on 05:10:2001 01:50 PM: Joe vs. Adon would have made a LOT more sense than Joe & Dan in CvS2... But to put the two together, I would say Joe would win the battle. Both fighters have great abilities... Adon's Jaguar Kicks and Joe's Tiger Knees would trade blows for blows equally. However, in the DM department, Joe wins hands down with his Screw Upper. Literally, it is one of the strongest supers in all of regular fighting games, as very few things can penetrate it. In Real Bout, the SDM version would go through EVERYTHING in its path at amazing speed... the only person that could actually have a decent defense towards this move was Sokaku, since he could teleport, missing the Screw Upper altogether. Adon simply does not have any moves that can counter the Screw Upper... therefore I think Joe would win in a match-up. Posted by TRuNK$ on 05:10:2001 02:14 PM: hmmmm two of my favorite characters, but i gotta go with adon, he makes funny noises and he kicks ass Posted by Judgement on 05:10:2001 04:18 PM: im a capcom fan but i go for joe since he is a much more likeable character. Adon is like a villian of sorts so my votes for joe... adon plays very diffrently to joe so they only really have visual similaritys.. they are in the end far too diffrent for any decent comparison. and adon wont make it to cvssnk2 anyway. but i do like the noises adon makes as well in some ways adon is more akin to feilong(soundwise) Posted by DarkZero on 05:10:2001 06:09 PM: I like both of them but Joe would win if they fought. After Adon is defeated, Joe would pull down his shorts and moon him Posted by jedirobb on 05:10:2001 06:31 PM: adon is friggen god.. he would cremate lil joey punk..hands down hell hands behind his back - hopping on one leg adon would kill him.. adon adon adon heh robb = ) Posted by FistsofFury on 05:10:2001 07:15 PM: >>Adon VS JOE<< Has Adon been the undefeated champion for 5 years? No, all Adon's been is Sagat's former hoe. Adon is a rookie, Joe is a professional. Plus, Joe could smack Adon down with his moves, Joe seems to have more. And the Screw Upper.... Adon would just lose. "YOSHAAA!!" FistsoFury He likes Joe more than Adon Posted by Iron D on 05:10:2001 08:09 PM: Adon vs Joe My first post. Hah! Anyway, taking a totally non-biased stand point, Adon beat Sagat, which is no small feat. Joe would definitely be creamated by Sagat no doubt about it. So I say that Joe (with or without the tornado uppercut) would stand little chance against Adon, who is the god of muay thai, or so he says. Adon's offensive game is just too much for Joe. Sure Joe could pull off that tornado uppercut, but he'd better keep it up, because once that tornado move is down, Adon will get through and demolish Joe. Posted by TS on 05:10:2001 08:21 PM: Re: Adon vs Joe Two things: #1. V-ISM Adon. Bang. #2. Where's all this info that "Adon beat Sagat" coming from? As for Adon being a rip off of Joe or vice versa...neh. Doesn't matter. Posted by TS on 05:10:2001 08:24 PM: quote: Originally posted by GeoG2 I'd like to see Adon pull out a Jaguar Assualt or Super Jaguar Kick while Joe does the Screw Uppercut. The look on his face would be priceless......indeed. All Level2/3 (and a lot of level 1) Capcom supers in the Alpha series have invincible startup. Not only that, but Adon's Jaguar Revolver (?) is abonormally fast, as supers go. Posted by Psycho Soldier on 05:10:2001 08:30 PM: Re: Re: Adon vs Joe quote: Originally posted by TS Two things: #1. V-ISM Adon. Bang. #2. Where's all this info that "Adon beat Sagat" coming from? As for Adon being a rip off of Joe or vice versa...neh. Doesn't matter. All the V-ISM in the world doesn't go through a Screw Upper. That super literally has no holes in it, and it reaches from the ground to the sky preventing people from being able to jump over it. This may be one of the only cases where aif a character was placed in A3 that the regular version would be best. Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 08:40 PM: I haven't heard any good reasons for why Adon would be able to beat Joe yet. WOULD Sagat cream Joe though as some people are saying? Lowly punk upstart Ryu kicked his ass at the end of the first Street Fighter. And after Bison (boss) took over the tournament Sagat was fighting people who were already half dead. Remember that the boss order was made so that Balrog (boxer) would take out any unworthy contenders right away, then Vega (claw) would give anyone who passed Balrog major lacerations, they'd lose a lot of blood during the fight, etc. Now, you think they give you a month to recover from stuff like that between each fight? By the time someone got up to Sagat they were practically dead to begin with, because a Bison vs. ANYONE match was supposed to never happen, which is why Sagat was put right below him in the first place, so that he could KILL anyone who fought against him. During SF1~SFA Sagat was extremely powerful, but under Bison's regime he was just a hired killer. Posted by TS on 05:10:2001 08:42 PM: Re: Re: Re: Adon vs Joe quote: Originally posted by Psycho Soldier All the V-ISM in the world doesn't go through I was ready to yell at you at this point, but then I realized that I've never played Real Bout (closest I came was watching the lonely RBFF machine in the corner of my old arcade, and having Fatal Fury 2 for my Genesis). Unless the Screw Upper is also huge horizontally, I'm sure Adon could VC through it. Posted by TS on 05:10:2001 08:46 PM: quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa TS: Well the way Screw Upper works... 1) It has minimal start up time 2) It is about as wide as, say a Haohshokuken or Shinkuu Hadouken. It doesn't looke EXACTLY as wide, but the collision on it is the same (and actually wider in RBS and several other games). 3) It is the height of the entire playable area, there's no way to jump over it at all. Wasn't talking about jumping over it, I was talking about jumping through it. Posted by jedirobb on 05:10:2001 08:47 PM: adon defeated sagat in a2 and was going after akumas nuggets in a3...wants to know the secret of the raging demon its great at the end of a2 - adons ending - where akuma goes and beats up adons opponent before adon gets outside.. i prefer xism adon - way more powerful and i like the super variant...punches or kicks a lil insane with no air blocking i grant you - but cool never the less - you just gotta not get hit hes super badass on a3 at home - after world mode - buy air blocking - heh and vsm if ya want - i go with power up.. mucho destruction robb = ) Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 08:47 PM: TS: Well the way Screw Upper works... 1) It has minimal start up time 2) It is about as wide as, say a Haohshokuken or Shinkuu Hadouken. It doesn't looke EXACTLY as wide, but the collision on it is the same (and actually wider in RBS and several other games). 3) It is the height of the entire playable area, there's no way to jump over it at all. Posted by LiquiD!MonkeY on 05:10:2001 08:49 PM: sorry but Adon would rip Joe to shreds, Adon is the real Muy Thai fighter, Joe's moves look reaaaaal crazy because he is from SNK, we all know that SNK combos are a lot more crazier than capcoms, but yeah, Adon would win... Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 08:51 PM: That's a bad argument, since you could fight Joe in the FF games, in what I'm assuming is random order. So you might have to run through 8 people before you get to Joe. True, but the point is that in SF2 there is a SET boss order that you have to go through regardless of who you fought before them. And I KNOW you're not talking smack about Sagat. I'm not, he's actually the character I used the most in SSF2, etc., but I can't deny the reason the boss order was set up. Sagat lost the fight to Ryu because he was arrogant and all (sorta like Joe). Point is that he still lost. And I'm sure Mr. Higashi lost a few fights to punk ass, weak ass, homo-ass Andy Bogard when he was younger. According to the storyline? Joe's lost ONE fight in his entire life, and that was his first sparring match with Andy Bogard. Also, why is Andy a "...weak ass, homo-ass..."? Yeah, lets see you fully master two completely different fighting styles and create your own hybrid style based on them before YOU turn twenty-four. Posted by TS on 05:10:2001 08:56 PM: Damn this board to hell. keeps screwing with my posts. jedirobb- you can't always follow endings (though in A2, they tend not to contradict each other as much as usual). Bison rules the world in all of his endings, that doesn't mean he actually does it. Neo- wasn't talking about jumping over Joe's uppercut thing, was talking about jumping through it. quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa Sagat lost the fight to Ryu because he was arrogant and all (sorta like Joe). Point is that he still lost. [/B] But it doesn't mean he'd lose to Joe. quote: And I'm sure Mr. Higashi lost a few fights to punk ass, weak ass, homo-ass Andy Bogard when he was younger. According to the storyline? Joe's lost ONE fight in his entire life, and that was his first sparring match with Andy Bogard. Also, why is Andy a "...weak ass, homo-ass..."? Yeah, lets see you fully master two completely different fighting styles and create your own hybrid style based on them before YOU turn twenty-four. [/B] Doesn't matter. You can't respect someone with hair like that. Posted by jedirobb on 05:10:2001 09:00 PM: mmmm..ok but the only reason why i even spouted that off is because someone askd where the winning over sagat came from.. so in that case where would you like to get the character information from then...? there is some story line - sides bison only takes over the world if you win with HIM..heh robb = ) Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:10:2001 09:04 PM: I would usually agree that someone losing a fight to one person wouldn't automatically mean that they lose the fight to another (it's a pretty rediculous idea to begin with). But in this case, look at HOW young Ryu was at the time and how much MORE powerful Sagat was. Sagat should have owned him for free but he still lost and got a permanent scar on this chest. Doesn't matter. You can't respect someone with hair like that. I can't respect people with long hair. Brilliant. Posted by DarthSalamander on 05:10:2001 09:51 PM: quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa I would usually agree that someone losing a fight to one person wouldn't automatically mean that they lose the fight to another (it's a pretty rediculous idea to begin with). But in this case, look at HOW young Ryu was at the time and how much MORE powerful Sagat was. Sagat should have owned him for free but he still lost and got a permanent scar on this chest. Doesn't matter. You can't respect someone with hair like that. I can't respect people with long hair. Brilliant. It will be a cold day in hell when these discussions actually go any where. I say Joe would win until he inevitably moons Adon, at which point Akuma jumps in and performs El Demon on Joe. Posted by IronPanda on 05:10:2001 10:41 PM: Adon owns JOe's punk ass for half price. Posted by Deviant on 05:10:2001 10:59 PM: adon wins... he is much more disciplined, and powerful. he beat sagat. who else beat sagat?? ryu, the most powerful street fighter ever, bison, and adon. also, who has akuma shown interest in? ryu, bison, and adon. and maybe gen. but thats it. no one else is powerful enough to warrant it. i think capcom should have adon finally meet akuma, and succumb to the dark side, becoming more powerful, and crazy Deviant Posted by Yamcha Hibiki on 05:11:2001 12:53 AM: quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa Plus, Joe says cool stuff like "I saw through you like, uh, something transparent!" and "How's that? I'm the Satan of martial arts!" Hells yeah! The second one you mentioned is the best quote in video game history! Besides Joe would tear Adon up with his "SCREW UPPER!" I mean, come on, folks. Anyone who has a move called the "Screw Upper" is bad ass, nuff said! Posted by Yamcha Hibiki on 05:11:2001 12:59 AM: quote: Originally posted by Cypher Wing If Joe were powered up of course. Since Adon beat Sagat who is extremely strong. Ummmm... according to SFA3 when you pick Dan and it tells his lil' character infoI would hardly call Dan extremely strong The proof of this is by picking Dna in SFA3 and it shows his lil' story info it states that "After defeated the man who killed his father" and the man who killed Dan's father was Sagat. So if Dan can beat Sagat, I'm sure Joe could. Nuff said. Posted by Crayfish on 05:11:2001 01:40 AM: Hwa Jai Just to add a little something extra to this crossover Muay Thai debate, do any of you fighting game scollars recall Hwa Jai the alcaholch Muay Thai master from FF1. He must have trained at the same gym or under the same trainer as Joe but he turned out evil and like some other SNK characters actualy fought better when he was drunk! Where does he fit into this whole thing? I think he's probably pretty strong, he was a late boss in FF1 and had probably the best knee (essential for any Muay Thai character) attack in fighting game history plus he's just as mean looking as Sagat. See attached pic. Crayfish. Posted by Kuroi Sabato on 05:11:2001 01:44 AM: Yeesh!!! I wonder why ppl kept saying Adon beats Sagat? Is it because of Adon's ending in SFA? Ok I'll tell you this! Chun-li beats Bison(!!!!), Dan beats Sagat(!!!!!), Sagat beats Ryu(!!!!!!!!!!), Bison rules the world(!!), Nakoruru dies in SS2(!!!!!), Team Korea beats Goenitz(!), etc. For pete's sake it's only their ending!!! Not all endings are to be followed! As for the Adon vs. Joe thing. Joe will beat up Adon's ass no problem. Joe and his crazy kicks(heel hunter) and hurricanes will be more than a match against Adon. Posted by on 05:11:2001 01:54 AM: quote: Originally posted by TS All Level2/3 (and a lot of level 1) Capcom supers in the Alpha series have invincible startup. Not only that, but Adon's Jaguar Revolver (?) is abonormally fast, as supers go. It doesn't matter. A barrage of physical attacks is useless against a supernatural abilty like creating a hurricane. Posted by Cypher Wing on 05:11:2001 01:55 AM: quote: Originally posted by Kuroi Sabato Yeesh!!! I wonder why ppl kept saying Adon beats Sagat? Is it because of Adon's ending in SFA? Ok I'll tell you this! Chun-li beats Bison(!!!!), Dan beats Sagat(!!!!!), Sagat beats Ryu(!!!!!!!!!!), Bison rules the world(!!), Nakoruru dies in SS2(!!!!!), Team Korea beats Goenitz(!), etc. For pete's sake it's only their ending!!! Not all endings are to be followed! As for the Adon vs. Joe thing. Joe will beat up Adon's ass no problem. Joe and his crazy kicks(heel hunter) and hurricanes will be more than a match against Adon. But some plots are permanently written in the Street Fighter History, like how Charlie dies. As is the story of how Adon beat Sagat. Posted by on 05:11:2001 01:56 AM: Crayfish: Hwa and Joe were rivals. After getting beat by Joe (Hwa was the world champ until Joe beat him) he retired and became Joe's trainer/coach. Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:11:2001 01:58 AM: Crayfish: Hwa Jai rocks. Here's some more info about him: He was actually the world kickboxing/Muei Thai champion up til around the original Fatal Fury. He was hired by Geese Howard along with Raiden to be in the King of Fighters tournament to help Billy Kane keep any possible competition from working their way up to a fight with Geese, since he wanted to maintain his image as a prominent public figure and philanthropist. Right before or after Fatal Fury (I forget which) Joe took hold of the world championship again and held onto it ever since. The cool part... Hwa Jai ISN'T a bad guy. He was unaware of Geese's overall plans, etc. and just accepted his offer to make some easy money (or so he thought). He actually retired just after Fatal Fury 2 and has been Joe Higashi's manager ever since. There's a hilarious RBS Joe vs. Ryuji Yamazaki intro that's like the SFA Sagat+Go intro only Ryuji is kicking away Hwa Jai instead! Posted by Crayfish on 05:11:2001 02:12 AM: quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa Crayfish: Hwa Jai rocks. Here's some more info about him: He was actually the world kickboxing/Muei Thai champion up til around the original Fatal Fury. He was hired by Geese Howard along with Raiden to be in the King of Fighters tournament to help Billy Kane keep any possible competition from working their way up to a fight with Geese, since he wanted to maintain his image as a prominent public figure and philanthropist. Right before or after Fatal Fury (I forget which) Joe took hold of the world championship again and held onto it ever since. The cool part... Hwa Jai ISN'T a bad guy. He was unaware of Geese's overall plans, etc. and just accepted his offer to make some easy money (or so he thought). He actually retired just after Fatal Fury 2 and has been Joe Higashi's manager ever since. There's a hilarious RBS Joe vs. Ryuji Yamazaki intro that's like the SFA Sagat+Go intro only Ryuji is kicking away Hwa Jai instead! Where do you guys get all your info. Im interested in old school FF charas (brilliant designs that far outshone the gameplay), would you answer some questions about them? Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:11:2001 02:16 AM: I'll answer any questions I can. :) I get my info from a combination of sources >:)~ Posted by Crayfish on 05:11:2001 02:27 AM: Neo Rasa questions Nice one Neo Rasa, do you know: Is Big Bear, Raiden or are they sepirate charas? How strong is Tung fu Rue compared to other charas, he's one of my favourite chara designs ever any info about him? Any info about Jubei Yamada? There should be more old master charas in fighting games. What about getting some other SNK vs Capcom debates eg: Axel Hawk vs Balrog Tung fu Rue vs Gen etc... Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:11:2001 02:36 AM: Here we go Is Big Bear, Raiden or are they sepirate charas? They are one in the same! Raiden is an amalgation of real life ex pro wrestler John Tenta's Earthquake person combined with The Giant Machine's (a short lived André the Giant persona) cowl. Raiden was a classic heal wrestler who, after getting the crap kicked out of him publicly in the King of Fighters tournament in 1991, became a 'good guy' wrestler called Big Bear. You'll notice that he only has 'dirty' moves like the Poison Mist when he is Raiden. It was great because they even gave him the exact same theme song in Fatal Fury, Fatal Fury 2, and Fatal Fury Special (with an awesome slow remix for Fatal Fury: Wild Ambition). How strong is Tung fu Rue compared to other charas, he's one of my favourite chara designs ever any info about him? I'd say he's about equal with Gen when he's in his normal form, but he 'hulks out' very few people would be able to stand up to him. Any info about Jubei Yamada? There should be more old master charas in fighting games. Jubei Yamada was Mai and Andy's sensei after Hanzo Shiranui passed away, unfortunately that's all there is to him. Axel Hawk vs Balrog This fight would rock since Balrog is a takeoff of Mike Tyson and Axel Hawk is a takeoff of Butterbean! Posted by Crayfish on 05:11:2001 02:39 AM: Thanks Yeah I would pay the PPV for that one Posted by on 05:11:2001 02:41 AM: Also...Jubei and Tung were close friends who trained together often. Posted by Crayfish on 05:11:2001 02:53 AM: quote: Originally posted by GeoG2 Also...Jubei and Tung were close friends who trained together often. If they learnt each other techniques that would be an awsome character, Tung fu Rue with grappling moves utilizing his 'hulk out'! Posted by choo on 05:11:2001 06:27 AM: but wait...!! you're all forgetting something! If Joe and Adon should ever meet, they would have to be in the same fighting game (let's say.. CvS) In a real fight, I'd say Joe would win, but we're talking about CvS here! With a little of "divine intervention" from a certain company (which will remain unnamed) Adon would get to keep all his moves and Joe would have all his normals in his regular character and nothing but his Screw Upper for his EX (sarcasm) Adon wins. Posted by Cypher Wing on 05:11:2001 12:16 PM: quote: Originally posted by Yamcha Hibiki Ummmm... according to SFA3 when you pick Dan and it tells his lil' character infoI would hardly call Dan extremely strong The proof of this is by picking Dna in SFA3 and it shows his lil' story info it states that "After defeated the man who killed his father" and the man who killed Dan's father was Sagat. So if Dan can beat Sagat, I'm sure Joe could. Nuff said. Sagat killed Dan and his father, actually. Posted by jedirobb on 05:11:2001 03:16 PM: can we talk a minute about the name of the moron joes pun - err ah i mean move "screw upper" as in he is a... screw up per.. a frigging screw up.. hello... joes a twit.. snk sucks - capcom rules the planet... dam cheap knockoff wanna be capcom... "that's all i hafta say about that" forrest gump - in honor of joe is a dead sonofabich if he ever tries to get in adons face that dam lil punk ass no good monkey raper robb = ) Posted by ej_333 on 05:11:2001 03:30 PM: joe would beat adon. Adon's pretty fast, but Joe's got quick moves too. Joe has the same weapons as Adon, plus he's got extra weapons like Hurricanes and Slash Kick. Joe also has a better looking ass, so if they ended up in a draw like in 3rd strike, those 3rd strike lady judges would obviously give Joe the draw since they'd think he has the better ass. And DONT GIVE ME CRAP about Adon having the better ass, Adon knows he's too scrawny and has no butt like Calista flockhart, thats why he dont show it off, hehehe. No but seriously, these kinda comparisons are pretty dumb, hehe. But they can be entertaining! Posted by jedirobb on 05:11:2001 03:38 PM: are you looking at the lil sprites ASSES?!?!?!? what the hell.. = ) anyways joe would die so stop - jaguar tooth.. now i wanna see the match up to see if adon can poke him outa his fuckupper move.. oh well.. enjoy robb = ) Posted by ej_333 on 05:11:2001 03:44 PM: quote: Originally posted by jedirobb are you looking at the lil sprites ASSES?!?!?!? what the hell.. = ) anyways joe would die so stop - jaguar tooth.. now i wanna see the match up to see if adon can poke him outa his fuckupper move.. oh well.. enjoy robb = ) Lol, no, i dont ogle sprites' asses, although you couldnt help but notice Joe's ass, because in 99 and 2K, after his striker attack, he'd stick his ass out for everyone to see. Plus, it's his taunt, and he'd also do it for intro in kof97... And Adon is pretty skinny, so it's only logical he got a skinny ass, hehe. And jaguar tooth is hella weak, i remember in sfa2, ryu or ken could just do down+fierce and cleanly hit adon out of it, it ticked me off cuz I was trying out adon for a while back then. Posted by jedirobb on 05:11:2001 03:49 PM: that was sfa2 .. not sfa3... the tooth is all powerful - well ok its not but its hella effective and just pretty - i envison him in a mvc game with a maximum spider type move based on that... sides i play with xsm adon - hes even better - love the lil hop kick in the air instead of the normal ground based move.. skinny - hes not frign skinny - fei long is skinny.. sakura is skinny hell CAMMY is skinny.. adon has long ass legs - all the better to kick you my dear... adon adon adon joe sucks joe sucks heh heh robb = ) Posted by ej_333 on 05:11:2001 03:51 PM: Hehe, ok, whatever. Maybe if they plug ADon into CVS2, we'll find out! Posted by jedirobb on 05:11:2001 03:54 PM: yeah! they will probably put in the a-ism(regular) version of him..hes not as cool as the xism adon - since hes got the changed hop kick and just teh one super - but i soo love it since it's a variable one... sigh.. robb = ) Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:11:2001 04:16 PM: snk sucks - capcom rules the planet... dam cheap knockoff wanna be capcom... Maybe you should stick to talking about comic books? Posted by jedirobb on 05:11:2001 04:26 PM: perhaps... = ) but what fun would that be..sides just my opinion - i dont really like the snk games..they are total rip offs of capcom - but there just not done as good.. anyways - i will stop now.. robb = ) Posted by acuma78757 on 05:11:2001 05:37 PM: I think sagat would whoop everyone. specially adon! Posted by Yamcha Hibiki on 05:11:2001 05:43 PM: quote: Originally posted by Cypher Wing Sagat killed Dan and his father, actually. Where'd you get that info? Alpha 3 says otherwise, at the starting ot the game I may say, too. Posted by sykocrashaa on 05:11:2001 05:54 PM: quote: Originally posted by Cypher Wing But some plots are permanently written in the Street Fighter History, like how Charlie dies. As is the story of how Adon beat Sagat. says who? please prove it because i've been wondering about this for a while. I've only seen sagat losing to adon in adon's A2 ending and that's the only proof which is not enough. Charlie's is valid because it has been mentioned since original SF2. However i've never seen adon beating sagat in any other game. Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:11:2001 06:59 PM: but what fun would that be..sides just my opinion - i dont really like the snk games..they are total rip offs of capcom - but there just not done as good.. That's what I mean, whether you like SNK games or not doesn't matter, but anyone who actually knows anything about both companies' games knows that SNK is probably the most important game company in existance (along with Sega and pre-1995 Konami) when it comes to trying to new ideas and coming up with new moves and designs. anyways - i will stop now.. Thanks. Does anyone know if Adon has actually beaten Sagat at some point yet? The Alpha 3 plot is a mess so I don't know if any of it should even be counted. O_o; Posted by EndLeSS8 on 05:11:2001 07:19 PM: LOL! Another "non-arguement"! I agree with ej_333! But seriously, it would be a close match. I use both guys in both games, quite well actually. Storyline wise, Joe wins, because, as what Rasa said, it's all true. Heck in FFMP, he beat his opponent with 1 hit. Adon is simply a good student trying to ursurp his master. He has never been champion. Gameplay wise, it' very VERY close. Joe's Tigerkick is as good as Jaguar Knee, but i'm 100% sure that Jaguar Kick can penetrate Tigerkick, and Golden Heel Revolver....BUT no way in hell it can penetrate Screw Uppa. Range...both characters have that in their normals. Joe's attacks are a bit faster though. Jump attacks, both have wicked jump attacks but I think it's even. Adon has an easy crossover, but Joe's jump CD has a higher hit range. Joe has the advantage in having a double projectile that's as tall as himself (Tornado Upper) The biggest advantage here for Joe is KOF's CD attack. Simply because it knocks down, and it's a normal attack (and not just Dwn Roundhouse) leads to more offensive play and more mind games when the opponent is on the ground. Supers. Joe wins. Screw Upper devastates anything in it's vicinity, and it reaches the sky. (Rasa: Remember the insane recovery in KOF95/96...it was nuts..Dog abused that to HELL on Kaillera!) Even with Adon's invincible startup, Screw Upper stays there long enough to hit Adon. Either way, this is one of the better matchups. l8z Posted by Shock Mega X on 05:11:2001 07:50 PM: I would say that good old FFS Dan would take out X-Ism Adon. quote: Doesn't matter. You can't respect someone with hair like that. Oh, and Adon has cool hair. Please. Posted by Cypher Wing on 05:11:2001 09:27 PM: quote: Originally posted by Yamcha Hibiki Where'd you get that info? Alpha 3 says otherwise, at the starting ot the game I may say, too. I'm not sure if this is right, but scroll down to Dan's pic under SF zero 3 #1... http://cammyfan.com/Capcom/capcom-mainframe.htm Sagat held up a dead shoto in SF2, so they made a story of that shoto, as Dan. Or so as he says... Posted by soshi on 05:11:2001 09:36 PM: quote: Originally posted by ej_333 Lol, no, i dont ogle sprites' asses, although you couldnt help but notice Joe's ass, because in 99 and 2K, after his striker attack, he'd stick his ass out for everyone to see. Plus, it's his taunt, and he'd also do it for intro in kof97... And Adon is pretty skinny, so it's only logical he got a skinny ass, hehe. And jaguar tooth is hella weak, i remember in sfa2, ryu or ken could just do down+fierce and cleanly hit adon out of it, it ticked me off cuz I was trying out adon for a while back then. You should never have tried attacking with the Tooth. It was better used to bait your opp. into trying to counter with a DP or something leaving them open to a CC/VC. Though if they had meter and you were 1/2 screen away Adon would eat a CC in SFA2. The Jaguar Tooth should be used sparingly. Actually that is the case with ALL his specials. It was his normal moves that rocked. Jutting Kick and crouching forward. Abuse it. Adon is too cool, but sorry. I think Joe would probably win. Suresh Posted by ej_333 on 05:11:2001 09:47 PM: quote: Originally posted by soshi You should never have tried attacking with the Tooth. It was better used to bait your opp. into trying to counter with a DP or something leaving them open to a CC/VC. hey, i was just experimenting with adon, at first i didnt know what he could and could not do. i didnt use his tooth ever afterwards, opponents weren't stupid enough to be baited into trying DP, they'd just do something with good recovery like Down Fierce whenever they saw Adon fly down, regardless if Adon actually landed on them or not. I think even Ryu/Ken's standing fierces beat that thing. And yeah, his normals ruled, while his special moves sucked ass. SFA2 aDon's jaguar kick sucked so much, shit recovery, shit priority, shit everything. His flipkick super looked cool, but had shit priority. His dash super had shit range. His jaguar knee uppercut had only mediocre priority, unlike that funny little dwn-fwd forward kick. Man, SFA2 Adon had a lot of garbage moves, now that I think about it, he wouldnt have a prayer against Joe! Hehehe, i had to throw that in. Posted by Yamcha Hibiki on 05:11:2001 10:17 PM: quote: Originally posted by Cypher Wing I'm not sure if this is right, but scroll down to Dan's pic under SF zero 3 #1... http://cammyfan.com/Capcom/capcom-mainframe.htm Sagat held up a dead shoto in SF2, so they made a story of that shoto, as Dan. Or so as he says... Actually that pic was drawn way before Dan's creation. Capcom was just drawing someone who would look like Ryo Sakazaki/Robert Garcia to poke fun at SNK. So that pic shouldn't count. Also I want to add that even if Sagat did kill Dan, Dan has at least beat Sagat once, and if Dan can do it, Joe can surely do it. So I think whether or not Adon beat Sagat makes no difference. Posted by Cypher Wing on 05:11:2001 10:44 PM: quote: Originally posted by Yamcha Hibiki Actually that pic was drawn way before Dan's creation. Capcom was just drawing someone who would look like Ryo Sakazaki/Robert Garcia to poke fun at SNK. So that pic shouldn't count. Also I want to add that even if Sagat did kill Dan, Dan has at least beat Sagat once, and if Dan can do it, Joe can surely do it. So I think whether or not Adon beat Sagat makes no difference. I was talking about the paragraph beside the picture. I certainly doubt Dan could ever beat Sagat And if Dan ever beat Sagat, which in that case Sagat must have been hung over, it doesn't necesserily mean that Sagat would have to be weaker than Joe, as the circle of these fighters mentioned (Joe, Adon, Sagat, Dan) isn't in a cycle. I mean, if Dan beat Sagat who was defeated by Adon, it doesn't mean Adon beat up a weakling Sagat. Adon would have to face Joe himself to truly prove the winner. Posted by Yamcha Hibiki on 05:11:2001 11:11 PM: quote: Originally posted by Cypher Wing I was talking about the paragraph beside the picture. I certainly doubt Dan could ever beat Sagat And if Dan ever beat Sagat, which in that case Sagat must have been hung over, it doesn't necesserily mean that Sagat would have to be weaker than Joe, as the circle of these fighters mentioned (Joe, Adon, Sagat, Dan) isn't in a cycle. I mean, if Dan beat Sagat who was defeated by Adon, it doesn't mean Adon beat up a weakling Sagat. Adon would have to face Joe himself to truly prove the winner. Like I said before it says in SFA3 when you pick Dan and if you read the lil' paragraph that comes up for him on the game it says that he defeated Sagat. But if you look at the bottom line of what both me and you are saying we're pretty muh saying one thing that is the same. It doesn't matter if Adon beats Sagat or not. It's Adon facing Joe that would determine the winner, not who Adon fought before hand. Posted by BioHazard187 on 05:12:2001 03:31 AM: joe is tha shit adon has no chance against joe......freakin adon and his screamin, wut is up with that......all ima say is that joe would send 1 screw-upper staight up adons all and all that wind blowin up adons ass would turn him inside out in like 2 seconds...L8rz Posted by soshi on 05:12:2001 04:37 PM: quote: Originally posted by ej_333 hey, i was just experimenting with adon, at first i didnt know what he could and could not do. i didnt use his tooth ever afterwards, opponents weren't stupid enough to be baited into trying DP, they'd just do something with good recovery like Down Fierce whenever they saw Adon fly down, regardless if Adon actually landed on them or not. I think even Ryu/Ken's standing fierces beat that thing. And yeah, his normals ruled, while his special moves sucked ass. SFA2 aDon's jaguar kick sucked so much, shit recovery, shit priority, shit everything. His flipkick super looked cool, but had shit priority. His dash super had shit range. His jaguar knee uppercut had only mediocre priority, unlike that funny little dwn-fwd forward kick. Man, SFA2 Adon had a lot of garbage moves, now that I think about it, he wouldnt have a prayer against Joe! Hehehe, i had to throw that in. His supers sucked but his 3P super was easily cancellable from crouching strong. An easy way to land it was to crossup with forward, c. strong, super. I never used it unless I had 3 levels. The damage off the CC was too sweet to waste it on anything else but a level 3. C. strong was a good poke, but forward was better. I prefered strong only in crossup combos. Btw, the tooth could be used if the CC screwed up. On occasion I would land the CC and the first set would juggle, but the 2nd set of Jaguar Knees would whiff and the opp. would be behind me. In that case you could use the Jaguar Tooth to hit your opp. from behind. Rolento can do the same thing in SFA2. I'll admit the Jaguar Kicks had bad recovery. If you hit deep your opp could recover first and CC you. I did find though that if you landed the Jaguar Kicks at maximum range(just the outermost part of the Kicks crescent) opps. couldn't seem to retaliate. I could be mistaken but that's how it seemed. I prefered the Jaguar Kicks in SFA2 to SFA3. Adon could easily pass over Sagats high fireballs with RH or forward versions and could pass Chun Li's kikoken with any version in A2 but it felty like a pain to use in SFA3. Too much startup time. The jutting kick(D/DF+ forward) was the shit. Nobody but 'Gief could get through on jump-in. Adon would lose, but I think he has a better chance you give him credit for. Suresh Posted by dark hado on 05:12:2001 06:30 PM: Adon whould win offcourse!!!!!!! All times are GMT. The time now is 01:20 AM. Show all 81 posts from this thread on one page Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.2.4 Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000, 2001.